Several years ago, I got more serious about writing picture books.  To do that, I had to find and learn from other professionals.  Enter the Picturebooking podcast.  It was the first kidlit podcast I ever listened to and one I treasure.  Now, all these years later, Jonathan and I are guests on this podcast that meant so much to me.  Please enjoy Jonathan introducing me as a ribbon dancer and other shenanigans as we talk about self-publishing children's books together.  We also offer some tantalizing details on Pancho 3 and how the structure of the setting mirrors the structure of the story.  Enjoy!

http://www.allthewonders.com/podcasts/mike-jonathan-sundy-picturebooking-episode-85/